Join Malcom Glenn, writer, speaker, organizational consultant, and public policy and communications specialist, for a conversation about the people who make — or break — equity and inclusion.
On Inclusion
“Inclusion is not an end unto itself… it is really a means to an end, I think that end is ultimately making sure that whatever you’re doing out in the world [has an impact]. And the more we look at inclusion internally as simply a foundational element of inclusion externally, I think the more effective this work is going to be.”
“You’re doing your very best to leave the fewest people out of that conversation… and when you do that, then it’s more likely that you’re going to serve those people in a way that makes sense for them.”
On Outside Perspectives
“I think the first thing to do is to ask people who are not like you or in a lot of ways, ask people who are not like the team with whom you’re working so if you look around. And you feel like your team is really homogenous then it’s probably worthwhile to consult with people who look different or who have different perspectives, who have different experiences, or who approach things in a different way… And so I think it’s really about stepping outside of ourselves and identifying people who are different from us, and as many different ways, as we can. Helping having them help us make an assessment of who might not be being included in what we’re doing and then really going out and building trust with folks from those communities.”
On pushing institutions forward
“Institutions are really just made up with people and the reality is no institution has any personality… no company is is a good company or a bad company. They’re all made up of people who are pushing those institutions in one direction or another. I recognize that it’s just individual people, and as long as I continue to engage with those people have conversations try to help them understand the perspective of other people there’s always an opportunity to get them to change”
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